More about Paraguay 1931 Mi.#392 and 393

Re: More about Paraguay 1931 Mi.#392 and 393

Beitragvon pasol » 13. Sep 2014, 20:55

Dear friends,

it is an addition to this thread:
the new interesting postcard of 3.SAF 1931 flight of LZ-127"Graf Zeppelin" - Paraguay registered mail (Si.#136) with stamps Mi.#392 & Mi.#393 from my collection. 8-)
Features:
1) a rarer combination of stamps: (Mi.#392 + Mi.#393.A) instead usual (Mi.#392 + Mi.#393.B);
2) previously unknown variety of stamp Mi.#392 -"Zeppei:in" instead " "Zeppelin".
:D

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Re: More about Paraguay 1931 Mi.#392 and 393

Beitragvon pasol » 6. Nov 2014, 21:33

Dear friends,

I decided to show for comparing the some varieties of overprints in word "Zeppelin" on stamps Mi.#392 & 393 in addition to the existing in catalog from my collection. :D

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Re: More about Paraguay 1931 Mi.#392 and 393

Beitragvon pasol » 11. Jul 2015, 13:52

Dear friends,

it's an addition to this thread:
the new very interesting cover of 3.SAF 1931 flight of LZ-127"Graf Zeppelin" - Paraguay registered mail (Si.#136) with stamps Mi.#392 & Mi.#393 from my collection. 8-)

Features:
1)variety of stamp Mi.#392 (2nd) -"Zeppei:in" instead "Zeppelin" ;
2) variety of stamp Mi.#393 (4th) -broken "a" in "Graf" and broken "i" in "Zeppelin", it was not known earlier;
3) a stamp Mi.#393 (3rd) with wide horizontal fields.
:D

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Re: More about Paraguay 1931 Mi.#392 and 393

Beitragvon pasol » 11. Jul 2015, 22:09

...and once more, my favorite variety of these stamps:
@Zeppelin wrote:"...Auf der blau/weißen Ursprungsmarke wurde zuerst der schwarze zweizeilige Text CORREO AEREO GRAF ZEPPELIN aufgedruckt, dieser Aufdruck erfolgte maschinell. Danach wurde auf der bereits überdruckten Marke der schwarze Zeppelin aufgedruckt, und dieser zweite Aufdruck erfolgte nicht maschinell, sondern von Hand. Und damit konnte es eben zu diesen unterschiedlichen Positionen des Luftschiffes kommen, mal weiter oben und mal weiter unten. Im Grunde hat das Luftschiff auf der Marke keine wirklich feste Position. Und damit sind solche "Landungen" möglich..."

now also Mi.#392 with "landed" airship (it was shown in another thread).
http://www.ezeptalk.de/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=213
I have it only a one copy on a 1.SAF 1931 flown cover (Si.#126). This is confirmed by the fact that it is franked with stamps Mi.#393(Type A).
While this letter is unusual 8-) ...Item has not a departure date stamp of Paraguay and an arrival stamp of Friedrichshafen 07.09.1931, only Paris 14.09.1931, why :?: How it was delivered :?:

This letter can not be delivered by Aeropostale...because it had not operated in this period: 8-)

"...The situation for Argentina Aeroposta was not very different, with the Argentine government also denying funds, and in June 1931 it ceased operations. However, the Director of Postal Services and the Director of Civil Aviation joined the claims of the press and the general public and finally convinced the President of Argentine's provisional government to authorize Aeroposta Argentina SA to resume their services.
By decree of 29 September 1931, the Company is subject to a lease and control of the Directorate General of Civil Aviation and the General Post and Telegraph, for the operation of the line between Bahía Blanca and Rio Gallegos, on an experimental basis for a period of six months, leasing its flight equipment and facilities that the Company had, at a cost of $7,000 per month. Legally, the company was designated as National Aeroposta, although at the corporate level it was still operated as Aeroposta Argentina S.A..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroposta_Argentina

This letter can be delivered to Paris by Lufthansa ... :roll: But 11 September 1931 a flying boat Dornier Wal registration P-BALA of Condor while on take-off procedures from Potengi river in Natal/Brazil collided against a boat. Three crew members died. How arrived the mail from this flight to Europe :?:

Can someone help ?

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Re: More about Paraguay 1931 Mi.#392 and 393

Beitragvon pasol » 12. Jul 2015, 07:15

Dear friends,

for comparing, I can show an usual zeppelin mail from 1.SAF 1931 flight (I know it) for Paris destination. It has departure stamp of Paraguay 22.08.1931 instead 26.08.1931 (as in the previous) and an arrival stamp of Friedrichshafen at 07.09.1931 and Paris at 08.09.1931.

So I think that my letter was delivered yet another way... :roll:

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Re: More about Paraguay 1931 Mi.#392 and 393

Beitragvon pasol » 12. Jul 2015, 09:14

Dear friends,

the several conclusions about these stamps and postage:
1) 95% of items with these stamps on philatelic market relate to 3.SAF 1931. They are franked with stamps Mi.#392 and both types of Mi.#393: smaller part with type A and most with type B stamps, because primary cachet with zeppelin (type A) was broken (see example above); 8-)
2) items relate to 2.SAF 1931 are rare and to 1.SAF 1931 are very rare, and they are franked only with stamps Mi.#392 and Mi.#393.A :!:

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