Icebreaker Malyguin crew member dispatches 27.7.31

Re: Icebreaker Malyguin crew member dispatches 27.7.31

Beitragvon pasol » 6. Aug 2011, 14:35

Lieber Polarfahrtsucher,
alle Ihre Briefe sind echte. Leider haben sie in diesem Thema falsch gezeigt. Wir diskutieren hier nur Briefe, dass wurden von Eisbrecher "Malygin" Besatzung 27.07.1931 geschrieben.
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Re: Icebreaker Malyguin crew member dispatches 27.7.31

Beitragvon pasol » 16. Aug 2012, 08:49

Dear friends,
back to beginning of this thread, as evidence of my opinion, I offer to compare the handwritings: the original Umberto Nobile's handwriting (right) and the handwriting from the Malyguin's "disputed" postcard (left)...Especially noticeable difference in the marked places.
"Specialist" with this handwriting made most of the fakes Umberto Nobile's mails, those are sold even on the well-known auctions (See the postcard below).
N.B.: ...He also likes to underlines the word "Italy" in the address !
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Re: Icebreaker Malyguin crew member dispatches 27.7.31

Beitragvon TALLTREES » 16. Sep 2012, 12:08

Hello pasol and members. I would like your views on this crew mail Postcard, which was dispatched from Leningrad (25.V11.31)to the Icebreaker ship " MALYGUIN " (27.V11.31) with a Friedrichshafen arrival stamp of " 27.8.31 12-13 " this cancel is approximately one month later than the usual arrival cancel (31.7.31 4-5) :?: .
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Re: Icebreaker Malyguin crew member dispatches 27.7.31

Beitragvon pasol » 16. Sep 2012, 14:59

Hello TALLTREES and friends,
27.08.1931 is the arrival date of mail transported during LZ-127 Polarfahrt 1931 from Russia to Germany by usual airmail on final stage (not by Zeppelin), which was sent thru route: Leningrad 25.07.1931- Icebreaker "Malygin" 27.07.1931- Archangelsk 20.08.1931, after month of voyage (without stamp) - Moscow 26.08.1931 (arrival stamp only for mail addressed to Moscow)- Berlin 27.08.1931 and further to ending destination (for example: to Friedrichshafen), but some mails have not an arrival stamp.
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Re: Icebreaker Malyguin crew member dispatches 27.7.31

Beitragvon TALLTREES » 16. Sep 2012, 17:30

Hello pasol. Thanks for the quick reply and explanation, i have not seen mail before with this late arrival stamp. Could you please help me with this Postcard :?: , i am unsure if it is crew mail, passenger mail, or other :?: , cancelled onboard 27.7.1931 (same day of contact with the Malyguin), and addressed to "HERNN LOUIS BULL", ????, ???? the LZ Friedrichshafen, Rosenstrase 4/I. (unsure), and with a long message written which starts "In this flight in the Artic regions ? (unsure of rest of text) I enclose pictures for you to decide. :)
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Re: Icebreaker Malyguin crew member dispatches 27.7.31

Beitragvon pasol » 16. Sep 2012, 20:08

Dear TALLTREES,
I think this postcard was taken on board and was sent 27.07.1931 by request Mr.Louis Boll (according this card: he was an economist (kaufmännische Angestellter) on Firma "Luftschiffbau Zeppelin GmbH" in Friedrichshafen). Apparently, he wrote himself this postcard and asked someone known to him from LZ-127 crew to send this card to his address. I think the sender wrote additionally the three last lines... I think that the sender and the author the last lines is ... Dr.Hugo Eckener :idea:
Mr.Boll mentions the several times in the text "...deine Besatzung"(yours Crew) and writes that ""...the Arctic flight another valuable ringlet in the chain of your flights..." .
P.S. ...I show the russian postcard, flyed almost the same route but till Berlin with the same arrival date, but earlier.
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Re: Icebreaker Malyguin crew member dispatches 27.7.31

Beitragvon TALLTREES » 16. Sep 2012, 22:00

Hello pasol. Thanks again for reply to my question on the Postcard , it would be good to know who wrote the last three lines on the message part of the Postcard :o . and thanks also for showing the Postcard with the Berlin arrival stamp "27.8.31 5-6"
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Re: Icebreaker Malyguin crew member dispatches 27.7.31

Beitragvon Zeppelin » 25. Okt 2012, 11:47

pasol hat geschrieben: I think the sender wrote additionally the three last lines... I think that the sender and the author the last lines is ... Dr.Hugo Eckener :idea:


The last lines were written by a different person, they are of a different handwriting. The last three lines read:
Euch herzl. Grüße / Yours best regards
Wilhelm Fischer
Wir sind (...?) / We are ... (...?)

Wilhelm Fischer was crew member, he was engineer.
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Re: Icebreaker Malyguin crew member dispatches 27.7.31

Beitragvon pasol » 25. Okt 2012, 18:04

Dear @Zeppelin,
a lot of thanks for rectification !
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Re: Icebreaker Malyguin crew member dispatches 27.7.31

Beitragvon pasol » 14. Apr 2013, 04:59

Dear friends,

now, I can show one of some genuine postcards (from well-known russian collection), which was sent by Malygin's postmaster Ivan Papanin from the board of icebreaker "Malygin" July 27th,1931 to his friend in Moscow (arrival 04.08.1931) thru Friedrichshafen with LZ-127 (arrival 31.07.1931). It was shown earlier in other thread on our forum. 8-)
http://www.ezeptalk.de/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=353&start=30
Its main features are:
- the lack of guiding stamp;
- the registered number № 4035.

It confirms assumptions, what I said earlier. :D

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